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    The Shady and the Shadowed Verses God, Satan, Jesus, Heaven and Hell

    Within Reason; This article is under a category called within reason; I wrote this article in response mainly to the fashions and modifications that has been displayed by people as the image and the thinking of God and his plans about the people of the earth, (we humans and the earth itself). The arguments of the writings of the people about the same God clearly indicates that people write these things as if they are from God himself yet they know very well that they have written them just to con and rob those who have become their audience and the stooge members.

    Why so many threats in the bible; Does God really need money?

    Most of their writings are full of threats and mainly the death threats, they are written as if they are from God himself, even the ten percent of your offering is said to be wanted by god himself, I very much wonder if God himself has the need for money. If really God has the need for money then with his said powers he have to win all the national lotteries of country by country every day, the casinos and all other money games and let alone his poor people, and just live them out of all the church tithes and offerings that are required by the Pastors and the Bishops.

    Where knowledge ends religion begins

    Some wise people in the wise quotes have said that where the knowledge ends religion begins. Religion and beliefs need people who don’t reason to the depth but ony those who believe and follow blindly without lots of questions, if you question too much you are said to be the son of Satan, necessarily because you want the truth. For instance, what does God do with the money that the Pastors tell people they must pay in church for God wants them?

    Is the God we are waiting for one that is said to be the burning fire that will destroy earth and its people so fast?

    Is he the same God that took a lot of time and energy to build earth that will destroy it so easily, is it the very same mercifully God the God of everybody they are talking about. I know that if you are asking for such truths you are said to be the son of Satan the destroyer, but in a sense of the quoted verses here who sounds the destroyer.

    Wanting to know is not a crime, I am not protesting the existence of God here but the concept of using God to control other people and make business out of them. I am not protesting the bible here but of course some other verses that I feel were written by some prophets of old times drunk with some undiluted wines or from the spirits of false hood.

    Some verses in the bible must be surely removed because they make God sound evil than Satan or God is Satan himself, all those verses I have quoted them bellow, if this really according to the bible editors is what God is, we don’t have a God, God is Satan and the agent of Satan or Satan is the agent of God.

    The God we are waiting for; Who is who here; Satan or God

    In some good and humble parts of the bible, we are waiting for a merciful god that will bring all the peace and love to the people, the God who will bring all the freedom and eternity, the God who loves all and will end all the suffering. In the funeral services, in churches and many places we here of this kind of God, which one now is this one who is hungry to destroy this lovely earth we have. Earth is the only thing we have for living and our children; it does not have to be destroyed just like that.

    The words of an angry God must be re-edited the children are afraid

    The following verses in the bible needs to be re-edited taking into account that the bible is used or preached at a time most of the world’s people have become matured enough to listen, make-sense, realize, do thorough analysis to avoid paralysis.

    These words of this angry god must know that they are going into the minds and the brains of people who have waited so long for this God to come, to show up full of mercy, conduciveness, ruling by democracy, bringing with him peace, joy, everlasting wealth, ending of diseases, conflicts and contradictions but listen to these verses what they are saying; God is a monster, he treasures in messing up, destroying.

    Where is the promised peace and eternal life?

    These verses don’t mention the eternal life that some passages of the bible have promised, but death and tragic deaths. Is God Satan or Satan God or one is the agent to the other, according to the following verses quoted from the bible God and Satan seem to be common in interest. They both seem to be feeding in cruelty, torture, xenophobia, massacre, brutality, sorrow, pains and all sort of vindictiveness.

    God threatens destroying, Jesus as well according to some bible verses states that he hasn’t brought peace but wars and conflicts of all kind. Jesus farther states that he is the root and the offspring of ‘David’ according to the stories of the bible a mass murder in partnership with God (David)

    Jesus further states that he is the shining star of David (Revelation 22:16) this verse presents the most shocking revelation in the entire Bible. On the very last page, it reveals Jesus as the “bright and morning star”. In other words, Lucifer– Satan!

    Who really is who here? God, Satan, Jesus. What really is what? Heaven and hell, sometimes the Heaven concept sounds to be the one that is Hell than hell. Imagine endless singing and dancing in the whole of the promised eternal life, you get bored and Heaven become hell.

    What are the beasts doing in heaven?

    With the beasts in the throne starting to learn to associate with them (the beasts) at the throne of the Lord, not pretty show whether this Lord is a beast since he threatens to finish earth and the people in it, real heaven seems to be boring. And it is crystal clear that with the bible’s oppressive laws and commandments, Heaven is a dictator, a totalitarian kingdom and an apartheid regime fashioned with Hittlers, Stalins, Musolins, Binladins, Saddamis, Bothas, Vervots, President bush, Yuweri Moseven to mantion few. King Solomon must be there with hi lots of mines waiting for slaves. This is how they have made it sound.

    Which fire is which one who do we sin against?

    I grew up understanding and hearing from the church preaching that the fire and all the cruelty are for Satan. Satan is going to burn people and fry sinners in his hell. He has got a big fork that he will use to roast those who commit sin. Hell belongs to him (Satan) and people will burn forever and ever for doing sin and for not turning to God.

    Right, you sin against God, you break the laws of God and you are burnt by Satan, you don’t follow the bible laws or you break the Ten Commandments of God of the bible you are burnt by Satan, what do these Guys, Spirits, Deities or whatever they are, have in common?

    People are now ignoring the Christian notion of the fire of Satan, the pool of fire to burn the sinners and none Christians of the world, instead they pray standing, crying fire-fire receive-receive. Are the Christians of today receiving the fire of God or that one of Satan? How can you make the difference between the fires that of Satan and that of God?

    1.”And when thou pray, thou shall not be as the hypocrites: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, they have their reward. But thou, when thou pray, enter into thy closet, and shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which sees in secret shall reward thee openly.” Mathew 6:5-6

    Remark

    The Religious Right wishes to put into law public prayer. How many Christians realize that the Biblical Jesus strongly opposed public prayer?

    The wall of separation between Church and States actually protects the religious liberties for all of us in the world and here we have Biblical justification for keeping prayer private.

    Jesus was against praying standing; today’s Christians pray standing, who permitted them to do that? I have seen Christian praying standing shouting fire-fire, receive-receive walking all around their place of worship. Are they doing all this under the same Christ who opposed public praying and praying standing? Or they are just doing business for the above mentioned rewards.

    2.“Out of the mouth of the most high proceeded evil and good? Wherefore does a living man complain, a man for the punishment of his sins?” Lamentations 3:38-39

    Remark

    Here we have the little known verse that plainly asserts that evil as well as good comes from the mouth of God. At the same time, men who possess God given evil spirit must endure punishment for God’s cruel gift.

    (See also 2 Samuel 12:11 and 1 Kings 14:10 I will bring evil upon…

    1 Chronicles 21:1

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    3.”And again the anger of the Lord was kindled against Israel, and he moved David against them to say, go, number Israel and Judah.” 2 Samuel 24:1

    Remark

    Here we have a contradiction, a grave Biblical error, God and Satan working together, or the unmistakable interpretation that God and Satan “are” one and the same! Given that fundamentalists believe the Bible contains no errors or contradictions, then that leaves only the last two possibilities.

    Note that the word “AND” appears at the beginning of each verse and the message appears at the beginning of each chapter.

    Note also that the name Lucifer (another name for Satan) means light bearer, or morning star: “How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer to the ground…” Isaiah 14:12

    The last page of the Bible reveals Jesus: “I am the root and offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.” Revelation 22:16

    It should now become clear to the readers why some Satanist cults use the same Bible as the Christians. Satan is said to have fallen from heaven and Jesus is said to have came from heaven, with Jesus they justify to say he came, with Satan they say he fell.

    At one stage of Jesus’ life on earth, Satan is said to have taken him to the top of the mountain and showed him the whole land and promised to give him the land if he would kneel and pray to him. Whose land was this? Wasn’t it the land for Jesus and his father? And Satan must have known that because they both came from heaven.

    Were these guys children, playing on the hill or this is a real story? If Jesus had to accept the land what was he going to do about it? Jesus is said to be the son, what is Satan to God?

    All sins are forgiven even red as blood, so says the bible, now what would happen if Satan ask for forgiveness of his sins and who will take charge of the blaze (Hell) and the serpents. Who is fooling who here?

    (See also evil and good from God: Lamentations 3:38-39

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    4.“For, behold, the day shall come, that shall burn as an oven; and all the proud, you, and all that do wickedly shall end: and the day that coming shall burn them up, said the Lord of hosts, that it shall leave them neither root nor branch.” Malachi 4:1

    “And you shall trample down the wicked; for they shall be ashes under the soles of your feet in the day that I shall do this, said the Lord of hosts.” Malachi 4:3

    “Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the Lord: And he shall turn the heart of the fathers to the children, lest I come and slice the earth with a curse.”Malachi 4:5-6

    Remark

    This last chapter of Malachi ends the book of the Old Testament.

    One would think it might end with a flourish of enlightenment. Instead we get fear of burning to death and can only look forward to the dreadful day of the Lord. With all the horrors recorded in the Bible, perhaps it should not surprise anyone to see the Old Testament end with the word “curse.” Or perhaps that’s the reason things have gone so ugly, hard, and difficult on earth: May be already he have cursed earth, this is a very long time these words have been written. What are his signs of cursing of earth to date? But is he cursing everybody? What about all these people who worship him every day?

    This Elijah will be sent by Jesus himself to turn the hearts of the fathers to the children. Is it the same holly Jesus the so called son of God who will do this to us?

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    5.“And it shall come to pass, that as the Lord rejoiced over you to do you good, and to multiply you; so the Lord will rejoice over you to destroy you, and to bring you to naught; and you shall be plucked off the land without going to possess it.” Deuteronomy 28:63

    Remark

    If the religious mind believes that God represents a loving God, then one must wonder about God, as described in the Bible, who would rejoice to destroy some of his creations.

    Should we hold honor to an insane God? The Bible assures us that God possess an evil spirit with hate, and full of wrath, and here he rejoices in destruction! God appears completely devoid of any wit or humor; a mental state that psychologists have observed in many psychos.

    6.“And it came to pass, as they fled from before Israel, and they were going down to Bethhoron that the Lord cast down great stones from heaven upon them unto Azekah, and they died: they were more which died with hailstones than they who the children of Israel slew with the sword.” Joshua 10:11

    Remark

    Another typical slaughter described in the Bible. Here we have God, personally throwing great stones on the people for the sole purpose of killing them.

    “The Christian religion has been and still is the principle enemy of moral progress in the world.” How come their leader is doing such immoral killings? According to the Christians such things are the devil’s deeds. Whose people was God killing? Is it his? Were these people a mistake to be alive and whose mistake? How many people today are living as God’s mistake and when are they going to be stoned to death?

    7.“Then the earth shook and trembled; the foundations also of the hills moved and were shaken, because his wrath. There went up a smoke out of his nostrils and fire out of his mouth devoured: coals were kindled by it. He bowed the heavens also, and came down: and darkness was under his feet. And he rode upon a cherub, and did fly: yes, he did fly upon the wings of the wind. He made darkness his secret place; his pavilions round about him were dark waters and thick clouds of the skies.” Psalms 18:7-11

    Remark

    Consider that these verses describe an angry (wrath) being, spouting smoke and fire, whose secret place consisted of darkness. This devilish entity sounds like a description of Satan, but believe it or not, actually comes from the Bible as describing God.

    This God sounds very angry, what spirit really does this God posses; he flies and under his feet was/is darkness. He breathes smoke and fire with his mouth and nostrils. I thought this verse will just change and say “I am joking it happens with Satan!”

    8.“I come to send fire on the earth; and what will I, if it be already kindled?”Luke 12:49

    “Suppose you that I come to give peace on earth? I tell you, No; but rather a division: For from henceforth there shall be five in one house divided, three against two, and two against three. The father shall be divided against the son, and the son against the father; the mother against the daughter, and the daughter against the mother; the mother in law against her daughter in law, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.” Luke 12 51-53

    Remark

    Jesus did not come to send peace, but rather fire and division among the families, just wars, contradictions, divorces, conflicts, politics and the whole of crime which is so much against the modern concept of the family values.

    (See also Luke 46:26

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    9.“Then the fire of the Lord fell, and consumed the burnt sacrifice, and the wood, and the stones, and the dust, and licked up the water that was in the trench.” 1 Kings18:38

    Remark

    We get told that Satan involves himself with the eternal consuming fire, yet the Bible makes it abundantly clear that hell fire comes directly from God.

    Note that fire does not consume stones, otherwise ovens and kilns could not work.

    10..And Nadab and Abihu, the sons of Aaron, took either of them his censer and put fire therein, and put incense thereon, and offered strange fire before the Lord, which he commanded them not. And there went out fire from the Lord, and devoured them, and they died before the Lord.” Leviticus 10:1-2

    Remark

    In many churches people learn that Satan lives within and uses fire, yet here we have fire coming out of God to devour two young men to death. Their only crime came from offering before God a “strange fire.” Although no one knows what the term “strange fire” means, it seems improbable that it could deserve a cruel death.

    God is said today by Christians to be the fire, even when they pray you hear them cry saying fire-fire, receive-receive, he seems to be familiar with lightning. When the children of Israel complained to Moses in the wilderness, wanting to talk to God himself, Moses let them. God appeared to them as fire or lightning, they only saw his back in a form of fire or lighting and they were scared.

    Why were the children of the Israelites afraid when God reflect himself as fire to them in the wilderness? Why do they pray fire-fire receive fire today, are they not afraid? What has fire become when opposed to the ancient fire?

    11.”And before the throne there was a sea like unto crystal and in the midst of the throne and around the throne were four beasts full of eyes back and front. The first beast was like a lion, the second beast like a calf, the third beast had a face of a man and the fourth beast was like a flying eagle. The four beasts had each of them six wings and they did not rest day and night, saying HOLY, HOLY, HOLY, LORD GOD ALMIGHTY, WHICH WAS, AND IS, AND IS TO COME. Revelation 4:6-8

    Remark

    Here we have a rare description of heaven where it appears frightening with strange beasts. One cannot help to think that it seems more a description of Hell than a heaven. What is this Holly, Holly, Holy which was, and is, and is to come? How old is the world, how long has this Holy been said, which one was, which one is, which one is to come? Why was the Holy-Holy being sung by the beasts not people in heaven? Is this heaven for beasts or for people?

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    12.If my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence”. John 18:36

    Remark

    Jesus here gives Pilate an excuse for his predicament and, amazingly, makes the claim that his servants would fight for him if this world represented his kingdom. If Jesus’ servants would fight for him, then what does that say about a peaceful world on earth or in heaven?

    In effect, Jesus here complains about his deliverance to the Jews which would lead to his crucifixion, something that God supposedly ordained for the purpose of salvation of sinners (according to believers) living knowing very well he has to die for greater purposes with the will of God, he would have enjoyed his deliverance to the Jews, or he preferred to be crucified by some people other than the Jews?

    His servants would not fight for the kingdom of earth, but they must have fought for that one which had become theirs altogether with Jesus. How did it feel to them seeing him sweat engulfed with fear, what were his fears, was it just to die or to be crucified. The cry on the cross, why because he was passing real death to eternal life, I would have laughed, engulfed with excitement of an everlasting life, which had to result from that death.

    Fighting, they could fight maybe but, the Roman Empire had a very strong army and were many and were a superpower not fighting spiritually by word as Jesus deed, but physical with weapons and dangerous weapons, I personally don’t think they would dare.

    1. 13. What is Jesus as of now?

    Jesus is an ancestor spirit just as good as any human that lived and died like any other ancestor. He is an ancestor of his own people. It is clever of him, he very much liked to be an ancestor of a hell lot of people and he just rushed to death. That was not saving anyone; the world is too much mixed up so his blood would shed for nothing.

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    14.Verily I say unto you, there will be some standing here, which shall
    not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his
    kingdom. Mathew 16:28

    Remark

    Most Christians do not realize that Jesus’ promise of his second coming did not apply to our generation or to a future generation, but only to the generation of his time. Also, Jesus said in Revelation 3:11: “Behold I come quickly…”

    Those poor people of early Christianity! They thought the texts got written for them, yet Jesus never fulfilled his promise.

    Two thousand years have rolled by and yet many “true” believers still await his “quick” return. As any school child knows, anyone who does not keep promises does not deserve our trust, much less our admiration.

    Furthermore, to believe in a second coming and the end of the world gives no reason to feel concerned about the long-term future of Earth. Why should we care about the environment, wars, or suffering if we believe that the world will come to an end soon and that everything will get taken care of in heaven?

    “There will be some standing here who shall not taste death” these were the words said by Jesus himself according to the bible. He was saying this to those people who were there with him on a waking life not as ancestor spirits or some deity.

    He was trying to create a hierarchy name and of course he did. He is (Idlozi) ancestor spirits of his people, he is a big and the most followed one because Christianity is the most followed religion in the world. It is so clever of that men Jesus, if he did exist, he knew that they are people who have got a bunch of fools and useless ancestors and they will prefer to be bought by his spirits and make him their ancestors. There is nothing wrong with that as long as this ancestor spirit (Jesus) works for you. This is all caused by the notion of the chosen people of God, so one would prefer to change his own identity to become the chosen, which at the end does not help him but keep him hopping for imaginary eternity, just to avoid hell, and its fires which have not appeared to people to burn just one man as an example.

    Fire of God and that of Satan, what really is all this?

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    15.”Think not that I come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. For I come to set a man at disagreement against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law. And a man’s opponent shall be of his own household.” Mathew 10:34-37

    Remark

    These words of Jesus confirm the unbelievable notion that Jesus did not come to establish peace, but rather to send the sword and to put man against his family. This is so much against family values.

    We have heard so much about children of modern times not respecting elders and their parents, being wild, ague some and stubborn. Is this what Jesus left his entire world? Is rebelling of children, organizational figures kingdoms the result of coming of Jesus? If that is the case, he would have not come at all. If this really is the reason he is not coming, it’s Ok, he must stay where he is because he is not a good spirit for family values.

    The only problem is that these things are already happening it seems clear that he Posted, MMSed, SMSed, E-mailed, Whatsaaped, and Twitered many of the world’s people this massage just to revive it, people are bad out there, the above mentioned spirit of Jesus recoded in Matthew 10:34-37 is working, the man Jesus is on Facebook, he really rocks.

    (See also Luke 12:51-53, Luke 12:49, Luke 14:26.

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    16“The Lord is a man of war: the Lord is his name.” Exodus 15:3

    Remark

    Note that many fundamentalists who consider every word of the Bible as fact must also concede that God, not only consists of a man, but also a man of war; a killer man of men.

    With such a belief, how could a Christian people ever divorce war from their lives?

    The Midrash Rabbah gives an explanation of The Man God: “His lower half was ‘man’, but his upper half was as God. [Only the lower half of his body, the seat of the sexual secret organs, belonged to the earthly within him, but his head and heart, given over entirely to holiness, were as divine.]”

    What about the story of Ashera as God’s wife in the bible? Christian God is described as a man, apart from all we have heard about him, what does he use his manhood for? Who is he married to?

    17“And when you shall hear of wars and rumors of wars, do you not be troubled: for such things must need to be; but the end shall not be yet. For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be earthquakes in diverse places, and there shall be food shortage and troubles: these are the beginnings of sorrows.”

    Mark 13:7-8

    Remark

    Belief in these words can justify any war and atrocity against nations. Yet Jesus here tells us that we should not feel troubled by it as long as we have belief in Him.

    When Jesus prophesies about the future, he gives the message that we have no control over our lives other than to choose or not choose a belief in the Lord. With such a message, it should not surprise anyone why the Religious Right does little to strive against war. Why his coming is coming with wars? Hunger and starvation: Is he a Lord God of suffering and hunger, is his kingdom a kingdom of hunger? Wouldn’t he give people good signs of the coming of the savior?

    People are suffering, even in churches so called people of God are suffering, it is may be because of this wrath of God, I feel a great deal sympathy for the overseas black people who were made to believe Africa their mother land is the center of evil and demons, referring to the black person’s cultures, spirits, and traditional beliefs.

    I feel pity for you guys, African spirits, traditional beliefs, ancestor worship are very powerful, running away or trying to run away from them is like running away from your own shadow.

    Wars and slave trade drove our fellow people to places they had never known to become animals for pulling ploughs in the fields and the scotch carts with their slave masters whipping them like donkeys. These people came putting the bible forward as lions in sheep clothing knowing very well they are out for kidnapping people for slavery. Those people were forced to abandon their gods and cultures. Today some people in the world have got lots and lots of money/wealth but they are not happy, they have spiritual related problems. They are at war with the spirits.

    Now which war did this God refer to? Is it causing divisions and rebellion in families and the world or making people at loggerheads with their ancestor spirits, since ancestor spirits are our forefathers who passed away, or he meant parents in the family, alive staying with them. Is this really something to come from a man highly rated as the Messiah, the Son of God or as the God himself in the notion of the trinity?

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    18.”I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things.” Isaiah 45:7

    Remark

    Here it explicitly states that God creates evil as well as makes peace. Considering that since the invention of man-made religions there has always existed war, it appears that God likes war more than peace.

    (See also Lamentations 3:38, 2 Samuel 12:11 & 1 Kings 14:10 “I will bring evil upon…

    19.”After this he went down to Capernaum, he, and his mother, and his brethren, and his disciples: and they continued there not many days.” John 2:12

    remark

    This verse describes Jesus and his brethren. Jesus Christ’s blood-related siblings directly contradict the Catholic concept of the life-long virginity of the mother Mary. Some Christians have attempted to defend this contradiction by pointing out that brethren have two meanings: it could mean brothers, from the same parents, or it could mean colleagues or friends. Note, however that the use of the word “disciples” suggests that brothers and disciples constitute two separate groups. Therefore, brethren must mean brothers in this context.

    Note also that Mark 6:3 mentions brothers and sisters that can only mean blood siblings.

    Also, nowhere in the Gospel of John or Mark does it mention Jesus’ birth or Mary as a virgin. Considering that a virgin birth of the Son of God would seem of utmost importance, it appears rather odd that these Gospels do not mention it. By then things and happenings were not as bad as nowadays but Jesus is said to have been born as a savior. Don’t you think we need somebody again to be born the same way to save today’s staggering world because that one of his have failed. We are being told every day, ‘he is near, prepare this is the time of the end’. We are sick and tired about this, how long should we wait, we were born hearing the same stories so our great grand fathers. What is he afraid of, is it of Saddam or Bin laden or guns that were not there when he lived? He must come people need that wisdom.

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    20.”And behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life? And he said unto him, why call me good? There is none good but one, that is, God: but if will enter into life, keep the commandments.”

    Matthew 19:16-17

    Remark

    Most Christians believe that Jesus, not only lived as the Son of God but God in the flesh. Consider that Jesus here calls “none good but one, that is, God,” pointing to an entity separate from himself (also see Mathew 5:48. Also note that because of the belief that none other than God “is” good suggests that Jesus must not have behaved in an entirely good manner himself.

    Some early Gnostic cults (judged as heretics by the Orthodox Church) believed Jesus as the Devil in the flesh and these verses suggests that He was the opposite of good– Evil in the disguise of God.

    21.You know that after two days is the feast of the Passover, and
    the Son of man is betrayed to be crucified. Mathew 26:2

    Remark

    Many Christians believe that Jesus came to redeem man to God by His death on the cross and to forgive man’s sins. In some instances we have the death of Jesus, yet at other times you see the same Christians making the claim that Jesus “lives.” Did he actually die or does he live? It cannot work both ways. Even if the death means a temporary death, it gives little value for an eternal sacrifice. But regardless of which way one believes, the morality of such an act deserves questioning.

    If Jesus equals a god, then he could not have sacrificed his life, simply because an infinite god cannot die. If Jesus died as just a man, then he committed what we would today call suicide. If anyone believes his prediction in Mathew 26:2, then Jesus must have known of his upcoming crucifixion. Jesus fulfilling his own prophecy says nothing about miraculous predictions for such self-fulfilling prophecies tend to carry themselves out. But if he lived as an all powerful being, he would have the power to turn away his death. But he chose not to. Instead he consciously allowed his own death. ‘Suicide’.

    This act of self destruction, especially in light of a horrible disfigured and bleeding upper body nailed to a cross hardly gives an exemplary act of the expression of life. On the contrary, such a scene equals that of horror movies designed to scare people out of their intelligence. Who knows how many children have experienced psychological problems after witnessing an image of a tortured man nailed to a cross at in churches. By the way, any graven image of Christ violates the second commandment. Exodus 20:4-5.

    As to the sacrifice, just what did Jesus sacrifice? According to the Bible, he certainly did not sacrifice his life. Jesus went to Heaven, (the right hand side of God) supposedly a place of peace, calm and everlasting joy. But as a man on earth, Jesus received death threats, attempts at stoning, and condemnation by his enemies. Exiting the problems on earth for the joys of heaven hardly gives an example of noble sacrifice. On the contrary, it appears that Jesus escaped his problems, leaving his disciples on their own for a life in perfect heaven. Should we teach our children to emulate such a selfish act?

    Did Jesus redeem man from his sacrifice? History shows that violence of man against man has increased since the alleged “sacrifice.” Wars, terrorist acts, murders, and suicides have occurred because of faithful acts in the name of Jesus. It appears that the sacrifice resembles the curse of a demon rather than that of a savior. Furthermore, believing that his death forgives sins only provides reason for committing them in the first place. Why should anyone feel so disagreeable about committing sins when they feel that Jesus has already forgiven them? No wonder jails contain so many Christian enthusiasts. Regardless of how “Caesar’s” laws treat them, they think of themselves as specially forgiven.

    What is the use of people judged for their sins in heaven because their sins have been paid already by the crucifixion of Jesus? If people are going to be judged it means Jesus died for no reasons. Hell and the hell fire must be of no use because nobody still has sins since Jesus paid for them. He gave in as the cover for everybody; he is the people’s guaranteed insurance cover to avoid Hell.

    What make wise people numb about Sins, God, hell, Satan, Jesus is that when you commit sins, it is said that you will have committed those offences to God. Come burning for those sins, you are burnt by Satan in hell. May be Satan is the correctional service department for God.

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    22.”And I say also unto you Peter, that you are the rock, and upon this rock
    I will build my church…” Mathew16:18

    But he turned, and said unto Peter. Get away behind me Satan:
    thou art an offence unto me. For thou serve not the things
    that be of God, but those that be of man. Mathew 16:23

    Remark

    Many believers think that when Jesus said “Get thee behind me,” he had spoken this only to Satan (as in Luke 4:8. It’s not like that.

    Many Catholics feel honored to belong to the original church established by Jesus. To this day, Catholics acknowledge Peter as the first Pope, the “rock” that Jesus built his church upon. But in just five verses later, amazingly, we have Jesus calling Peter, Satan. Did Satan really pose as the first Pope or did Jesus simply vilify again? Can you imagine a business owner promoting a man to a job, and then just after the promotion, arguing about his job qualifications? Jesus seems to have a poor sense of delegating duty to the right person here. Furthermore soon before Jesus died, Peter denied knowing Jesus (note that the cock crowed on the first denial, according to Mark 14:66-72 not after the third as the alleged Jesus said in his soothsaying in John 13:38). If the faithful should believe the Church’s beginning came from someone who offended and denied Jesus, then perhaps it should also give them reason why the Catholic Church seemed to act so demonically in their instigation of holy wars, inquisitions and Semitism throughout history. In any case, we should question Jesus’ choice for the “rock.”

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    23.”And it came to pass, when the evil spirit from God was upon Saul, that David took a harp, and played with his hand: so Saul was refreshed, and was well, and the evil spirit departed from him.” 1 Samuel 16:23

    Remark

    Here it specifically describes an evil spirit from God!

    Note that many murderers and serial killers have attributed the Biblical God to the reason for their slaughters. If the Religious Right feels so adamant about eliminating violence and pornography from secular literature, then why have they not seen that the Bible has influenced more deaths and atrocities than any other literature in the history of mankind?

    (See also 1 Samuel 19:9

    24.”And the evil spirit from the Lord was upon Saul, as he sat in his house with his javelin in his hand: and David played with his hand.” 1 Samuel 19:9

    Remark

    Consider that many modern Judeo-Christians consider God the opposite of evil, yet here we have, again, the clear Biblical wording of evil coming from the Lord.

    In early Christian history, several Gnostic cults believed that the Orthodox Church as well as the Old Testament came from Satan. The Church, of course, labeled these Gnostics as heretics and burned their books as well as the heretics themselves.

    Reading the Old Testament appears to affirm the observation that God and Satan, if not one in the same, at least work as a team.

    (See also 1 Samuel 16:23

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    25.”I am the root and offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.” Revelation 22:16

    Remark (Star of David)

    This verse presents the most shocking revelation in the entire Bible. On the very last page, it reveals Jesus as the “bright and morning star”. In other words, Lucifer– Satan!

    In Isaiah 14:12, St. Jerome, translated the Hebrew “morning star” into the Latin term “Lucifer” (light bearer), a name commonly ascribed to Satan by Christians, and represents the fallen star, an ancient symbol for the fallen or evil one. The morning star actually appears as the planet Venus, the brightest “star” in the sky (but the ancients did not know about planets). Venus always appears low on the horizon, thus it looked like a fallen star (fallen angel) to the believers.

    Although the Isaiah verse describes the fallen king of Babylon, Christians have, for centuries, ascribed Satan as taking many forms. And what more powerful form could an evil being take than to pretend himself as the savior of the world? This would certainly explain the hate filled verses attributed to Jesus and the blind followers who inherit ignorance. Thus, a conclusion, based on Christian beliefs of Satan, and the belief in the “inerrancy” of the Bible, one must conclude that Jesus has revealed himself as Satan!

    What a Revelation!

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    26.”And found in the temple those that sold oxen and sheep and doves, and the changers of money sitting: And when he had made a scourge of small cords, he drove them all out of the temple, and the sheep, and the oxen; and poured out the changers’ money, and overthrew the tables; And said unto them that sold doves, ‘Take these things hence; make not my Father’s house a house of merchandise. John 2:14-16

    Remark

    Here we have Jesus’ temper and violence showing. It must have taken considerable guts to drive all the moneychangers out and then have the nerve to pour their money out and turn over their tables. Consider what would happen today if a man entered a Church and threw everyone out and violently turned over the tables. No doubt the police would come and throw him in prison cells.

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    1. 27. Bible and the Pastors/Priests of Today

    Pastors of today only care about where they will get some powers to make miracles for fanaticism of their magic. They consult traditional healers, sangomas and magicians for these powers. Some will train people to act on getting healed from wheel chairs just to get fame. This church thing is getting funnier every day.

    I like some Nigerian famous pastors for their abilities to make money out of fools. . When exactly are the people going to work up? Work up guys!

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    28.”For thou shall worship no other god: for the Lord, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God: Lest thou make a covenant with the inhabitants of the land, and they go a whoring after their gods, and do sacrifice unto their gods, and one call thee, and thou eat of his sacrifice, and thou take of their daughters unto thy sons, and their daughters so a whoring after their gods, and make thy sons go a whoring after their gods. Thou shall make thee no molten gods.” Exodus 34:14-16

    Remark

    Exodus 34 Verse 14 (among other verses of the Bible) makes it abundantly clear that this God not only feels jealous but the Bible names him Jealous.

    Why an all powerful God should feel jealous of his creations simply because they believed in other gods remains unclear. Could it mean that other gods exist as well as the Hebrew god or that the other gods do a better job?

    It appears that many Christians fail to heed this explicit command in Exodus 34 Verse 16 to not make molten gods. Many Christians use plastic Jesus or molten statuettes of Christ tortured and nailed to a Cross (Jesus, supposedly God in human form).

    We have seen some churches kneeling in front of those Jesus’ cross statues and praying, Is that a real Jesus or a man made statue? Isn’t it written in the bible that you can’t pray to Jesus but to God himself?

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    29.Jesus served as Hitler’s role model. Here Hitler referred to the verse in one of his speeches: “I almost tremble at the thought of alluding to the most fatal example of the abuses of sorrow which the history of humankind has conserved the Cross. Consider what calamities that notion of heartache has produced!”

    “My feelings as a Christian point me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded only by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them and whose God’s truth was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter. In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the offspring of vipers and adders. How terrific was His fight for the world against the Jewish poison. To-day, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before in the fact that it was for this that He had to shed His blood upon the Cross. As a Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice…. And if there is anything which could demonstrate that we are acting rightly it is the distress that daily grows. For as a Christian I have also a duty to my own people…. When I go out in the morning and see these men standing in their queues and look into their pinched faces, then I believe I would be no Christian, but a very devil if I felt no pity for them, if I did not, as did our Lord two thousand years ago, turn against those by whom to-day these poor people is plundered and exploited. ”
    -Adolf Hitler, in his speech on 12 April 1922

     

    30.”And the people spoke against God, and against Moses, Wherefore have you brought us up out of Egypt to die in the wilderness? For there is no bread, neither is there any water; and our soul loathes this light bread. And the Lord sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.” Numbers 21:5-6

    Remark

    The Israelites began to complain against God about their miserable condition in the wilderness. So what did their loving God do? Their Jealous god sent fiery serpents to cause even more misery and death!

    Serpents, usually regarded as the Devil, appear to have come from the direct will of God here. Do God and Satan work together as a team? Let us hope not!

    Actually, in ancient cultures the snake represented a symbol of the Goddess. Many times a priestess of a Goddess temple would use snakes in their rituals. Sometimes a snake bite could cause hallucinations, or by their beliefs– ‘prophetic visions.’

    Much of the Old Testament describes the Israelites overtaking the goddess cultures and destroying their cities. They thoroughly eliminated the goddess religions and replaced them with their male god religion; they even turned the Scripture words of the goddess into masculine terms. Nowhere does the word ‘goddess’ appear in the Old Testament, yet many times, when you see the word ‘gods,’ it actually refers to goddesses.

    Sending fear into the hearts of the Israelites concerning the goddess, gave power to their own male god. Thus, Numbers 21:8-9 describes Moses control of the goddess symbol by making a fiery serpent; anyone who gets bitten when he sees it, lives. The deaths due to the fiery serpents and then Moses’ command from the Lord to save their lives when bitten, must have given their male god a powerful image.

    Were snakes the only things God would have used in this case? Is it the same snake that deceived Eve or God has got his own? What will one think about Moses’ Knobkerrie that turned into a snake in his miracles or will I call them magic in Egypt? What about Pharaoh’s snakes, which ones were holy and unholy between the two sides? The same snakes that messed up God’s Eden garden whole plan, God use them. Is God and Satan in shares?

    31“After this he went down to Capernaum, he, and his mother, and his brethren, and his disciples: and they continued there not many days.” John 2:12

    Remark

    This verse describes Jesus and his brethren. Jesus Christ’s blood-related siblings directly contradict the Catholic concept of the life-long virginity of the mother Mary. Some Christians have attempted to defend this contradiction by pointing out that brethren have two meanings: it could mean brothers, from the same parents, or it could mean colleagues or friends. Note, however that the use of the word “disciples” suggests that brothers and disciples constitute two separate groups. Therefore, brethren must mean brothers in this context.

    Note also that Mark 6:3 mentions brothers and sisters that can only mean blood siblings.

    Also, nowhere in the Gospel of John or Mark does it mention Jesus’ birth or Mary as a virgin. Considering that a virgin birth of the Son of God would seem of utmost importance, it appears rather odd that these Gospels do not mention it. By then things and happenings were not as bad as nowadays but Jesus is said to have been born as a savior. Don’t you think we need somebody again to be born the same way to save today’s staggering world because that one of his have failed. We are being told every day, ‘he is near, prepare this is the time of the end’. We are sick and tired about this, how long should we wait, we were born hearing the same stories so our great grand fathers. What is he afraid of, is it of Saddam or Bin laden or guns that were not there when he lived? He must come people need that wisdom.

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    32.”Surely, I come quickly.” Revelation 22:20

    “After this he went down to Capernaum, he, and his mother, and his brethren, and his disciples: and they continued there not many days.” John 2:12

    Remark

    This verse describes Jesus and his brethren. Jesus Christ’s blood-related siblings directly contradict the Catholic concept of the life-long virginity of the mother Mary. Some Christians have attempted to defend this contradiction by pointing out that brethren have two meanings: it could mean brothers, from the same parents, or it could mean colleagues or friends. Note, however that the use of the word “disciples” suggests that brothers and disciples constitute two separate groups. Therefore, brethren must mean brothers in this context.

    Note also that Mark 6:3 mentions brothers and sisters that can only mean blood siblings.

    Also, nowhere in the Gospel of John or Mark does it mention Jesus’ birth or Mary as a virgin. Considering that a virgin birth of the Son of God would seem of utmost importance, it appears rather odd that these Gospels do not mention it. By then things and happenings were not as bad as nowadays but Jesus is said to have been born as a savior. Don’t you think we need somebody again to be born the same way to save today’s staggering world because that one of his have failed. We are being told every day, ‘he is near, prepare this is the time of the end’. We are sick and tired about this, how long should we wait, we were born hearing the same stories so our great grand fathers. What is he afraid of, is it of Saddam or Bin laden or guns that were not there when he lived? He must come people need that wisdom.

    Remark

    The last words of Jesus said in the bible.

    It has been two thousand years, and Jesus has not come back, hence he did not come quickly. Therefore, this represents either proof of the falsehood of the Bible or that Jesus lied. And he represents the Great Liar in Christian thought. See “Jesus reveals himself”

    To make excuses today’s Christians will tell you that a year Jesus referred to is by far longer than the year that we know. They will tell you one year to Jesus is hundreds of thousands of a normal year that we know of.

    Khokhovula’s inner belief about God, the Bible, Satan and the Demons

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    I firmly believe God is there, but not only a god, but gods. It is plenty of them, including the Hebrew mountain God Yahweh. We have got the Greek god Leviathan, the Egyptian Osiris, there are many. These gods are the spirits, they are same spirits everywhere but the ways they are worshiped differ from people to people depending on their languages, cultures and traditions.

    God is there but on my personal understanding of the differences between God and the bible, I will rather worship God direct other than through the bible a book filled with pack of lies, fraud, hate, murder, rape and all the iniquities that it pretends to be against.

    Beside that some bible verses must be removed because they have ever since lied against God putting him strange words in his mouth, making God sound like he is Evil. It is not God here who is evil; it is the bible editors who compiled the book from a lot of different cultures making it sound as if God is a killer, doing this to frighten people so that they may control them. Putting laws as if they are from God to make people abide by them.

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    God is there but the bible needs to be corrected some things it says insult God, and make people who want to make sense out of it be scared.

    Is God dangerous as some pastors preach? What really is he, a cloud, a person, air, lightning, thunder, whale winds, hurricanes, earth quakes, tornados or something? It is not a crime to want to know, I am asking this because there are people who seem to know God too much these days, talking of God as if he is a fearsome beast, cruel and dangerous and so much in need of money.

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